Guru and Disciple ~ 22 Apr 2013

Nandana SGS MMS 327

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  1. Brilliant condensation of the Guru – Sishya process:
    Stage 1: Guru chooses to carry his Disciple. Disciple may not even know it. The kitten is not strong in body & mind to think or care for itself
    Stage 2: Guru is still carrying, with a subtle difference. He’s not holding the Disciple.. it’s the other way around. What the disciple is holding on to isn’t the Guru’s hands, feet or belly, but the Guru’s ‘teaching’. Through such gripping, baby monkey builds limbs & perspective, to fend for himself
    Stage 3: Strong to fend for themselves, little fish venture into the ocean. So, absorbed in their exploration, they don’t know their mother is watching. Mothers keep it that way. Guru is still carrying, but not in a physical sense. Mothers care. But will never be their children’s walking sticks. They grow their kids to be independent
    We can never thank you enough Sathguru, for carrying us through this ocean of samsara. With pranams,
    Jaya Guru Datta. Your Puttuji

    • mukund mohan on April 22, 2013 at 8:46 am

    Jaya Guru Datta & Happy Earth Day Appaji_/\_!!

    • Dariashakti on April 22, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Jaya Guru Datta!
    I love this particular teaching. I think you want me to be a fish, but most days I am still a monkey trying to hold on…Happy Earth Day!

    • M.VENKAIAH CHOWDARI on April 22, 2013 at 11:47 am


    • madhu talwar on April 22, 2013 at 11:47 am

    jgd Swami ji my Satguru, when i get attacked by tamo guna You clutch me out like a cat, in rajo guna i try to hold You in satva guna i swim like a baby fish under Your vigilant eye, You are always with me thank You Lord for being my Guru onhn sgd

    • Hira Duvvuri on April 22, 2013 at 11:49 am

    You are ten thousand miles away. Yet, Swamiji, you are watching with your vigilant eye my every move, by way of thought, word, and action. My monkey mind goes towards the world and its illusory pleasures, at every little corner and juncture, pleasures that do not even exist and I know from experience are not worth going after. Yet the monkey mind, like the untrained dog, wants to go hither and thither. With your invisible leash, you pull me away in a different direction. With each pull of the leash, I feel a certain wistful pain, a wrench, an unwillingness to let go of attachments, to people, to what used to be favorite things and pastimes. The remembrance of the past is sometimes a torture because it focuses only on the joy of the remembered moments, and not the pain. The tightening of the leash around the neck reminds me to my dismay that all those past experiences of pleasures were equally mingled with pain. It tells me firmly that I should simply move on, without looking back or sideways, straight ahead with zero resistance in the path that you are showing. Jaya Guru Datta

    • Hira Duvvuri on April 22, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    పదివేలమైళ్ళ దూరంలో ఉన్నా, గురుదృష్టి నిశితంగా గమనిస్తూనే ఉందని తెలుస్తూనే ఉంది. కోతి మనస్సు, శిక్షణలేని కుక్కలాగ ఎప్పుడూ అటూ, ఇటూ పోతూనే ఉంటుంది. మెడకు కట్టిన కనిపించని కాలర్ తో గురువు త్రాడు పట్టి లాగటమూ తెలుస్తోంది, అటు కాదు, ఇటు, అని. మనుష్యులపై, వస్తువులపై, పాత అనుభవాలపై ఉన్న కోరికలు, మమకారాలు ఒకపట్టాన విడిచిపెట్టవు. అన్నిటిలోని సుఖమూ బాధతో మిళితమై ఉంటుందని తెలిసినా, మాయ మనస్సు, వాటిలోని సుఖాన్నే గుర్తు చేసి, నొప్పిని మరుగున పడవేస్తుంది. గురువు చేతిలో ఉన్న త్రాడు మనస్సుపై బిగుసుకున్నప్పుడల్లా అది పెనుగులాడుతుంది, ఇష్టమైన, కానీ వ్యర్థమైన ప్రాపంచిక విషయాలను వదలటానికి ఇష్టం లేక. గంతలు కట్టిన గుర్రం లాగా, వెనుకకు, ప్రక్కలకు చూడకుండా, రెండో ఆలోచన లేకుండా మీరు చూపిన దారిలో నేరుగా ముందుకు సాగనీయండి సద్గురుదేవా. జయ గురు దత్త

    • Hira Duvvuri on April 22, 2013 at 12:09 pm

    327. మొదట్లో గురువు శిష్యుడిని బిగించి పట్టుకుంటాడు, పిల్లి, పిల్లిపిల్లను కరిచి పట్టుకొన్నట్లు. తరువాత శిష్యుడు, కోతిపిల్ల తన తల్లిపొట్టను గట్టిగా పట్టుకొన్నట్లు, గురుబోధనల పట్టువిడువడు. చివరకు చేపపిల్లలాగ శిష్యుడు, గురువు కనుసంజ్ఞల అధీనంలో తనకు తానే స్వతంత్రంగా మెదలవలసివస్తుంది. ఓం అవధూతాయ నమః – ఓం పరమాత్మనే నమః

    • Rao on April 22, 2013 at 12:18 pm

    Jaya Guru Datta.
    Great description on how a deciple can track his progress himself under the guidance of a Guru. I am still not clear if I am kitten yet.

  2. Jaya Guru Datta Appaji ! Thank you for the wonderful MMS. The message is a divine blessing ! Himble pranams to the lotus feet of Appaji ! I am reminded of the movie that Pujya Appaji made all the children in VGBS watch , ” Finding Nemo ” Pranams Appaji !

    • hailey on April 22, 2013 at 2:45 pm

    Help me be interdependent with you Swamiji

    • brahma on April 22, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Jaya Guru Datta
    Om Avadhutaya Namah
    Sri Swamiji teaches us everything what is necessary for us. His teachings are transmitted to us in so many ways. ´Through the Internet, by singing bhajans, by doing seva, by listening to His great music and wonderful concerts, through meditation and in dreams. Often He lets us experience on our own. Wherever we are around the globe He is there to have a vigilant eye on us. Our deepest thanks for every single learning step which we can do by His grace.
    Sri Guru Datta
    Om Paramatmane Namah
    Om Namo Hanumate Namah

  3. Jai Guru Datta
    So wonderful to hear YOU work with us in this beautiful way, I feel so protected APPAJI, thank YOU soooo much.
    Sri Guru Datta and namste
    Om Namo Hanumate Namaha

    • Dasharatha on April 22, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Jaya Guru Datta! Dear Appaji, depending on the situation, I feel like I experience all three stages alternating. I’m a bit concerned about stage 3, so please bless me that I have the courage and strength to venture like a baby fish. Sri Guru Datta!

    • rose sheppard webster on April 22, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Jai Guru Datta!!!

  4. Jaya Guru Datta. I love you Mother. Sri Guru Datta

    • Phani Prasanthi on April 22, 2013 at 11:42 pm

    Jai Guru Datta. Sri Guru Datta. Om Namo Hanumathe Namaha.

    • Archana Penukonda on April 23, 2013 at 12:06 am

    Jaya Guru Datta! This is an incredibly touching message! Motherly compassion overflows through every stage of the Guru-shishya relationship. No one but God is capable of such compassion and guidance with full undersanding of every thought word and deed of the disciple. That’s why God comes to us in the form of Guru. Thank You, Swamiji for clutching me like I’m a kitten. Thank You for blessing us so immensely with sacred, divine knowledge. If the baby monkey loses its grip, the mother doesn’t walk away. It helps the baby back before it moves on. You not only give us knowledge, but bless us with the ability to hold on to Your teachings. With Your blessings, I will strengthen this ability and lose the fickleness of mind. It’s very humbling and fulfilling to know that we will always be under Your watchful eye. No wonder we can never repay our debt to Sathguru regardless of how many births we take. Obeisances at the Holy Lotus Feet!

    • TR.Sethuraman, Cochin on April 23, 2013 at 1:10 am

    A good teaching , Appaji has given today through MMS 327, wherein it shows mainly the relation between the Guru and disciple. Here I even recollect Appaji’s MMS 92, which says the Guru come to disciple when the disciple is ready for spiritual initiation. In such circumstances the guru clutches the disciple like the cat hold it’s kitten. When we are ready for spiritual initiation , then it is our duty to listen to Guru’s words and follow His teachings in all respects and realize the spiritual path. Once we reach to that state we will come to the level of self realization . Then our next step is to develop our spiritual knowledge and share with good people. By doing so we will not develop ego , jealous , pride and selfishness in our life. At the same time we should always get charged ourself with spiritual energy through our Sadguru. Here it is not like the relation ship between the teacher and a student in his carrier. This is because while we are a student , the relationship with the teacher will be over , once we reach our goal. But in spiritual path we are always a student and our Appaji is our Master only till our life. That is why we should always have frequent touch with our Sadguru and also link with our Ashram and always under His vigilant eye. The photography is very apt for this MSG since it shows the relationship between the Guru and disciple. Thank You Appaji to alert us the importance of follow a Sadguru and through Your words and teachings we will develop our spiritual knowledge . JGD.

    • pinninti vijaya santhi on April 23, 2013 at 1:22 am

    guru bin gyan this whole universe it’s the SADGURU’S motherly grace that showers continuously on us beyond limits..what can i say except surrendering myself to your lotus feet JAYA LAKSHMI AMMA..sri guru datta..jaya guru datta..

  5. jaya gurudatta

    • Maurice Clarke on April 23, 2013 at 5:55 am

    JGD. May we become fully spiritually mature as per Guru’s Will. JGD.

  6. JAYA GURU DATTA! Shathakoti Shastanga Namaskaras to lotus feet of Parama Pujya Sri Sri Sri Ganapathy Sachidananda Swamiji, it is real Appaji, you are the care taker of me. SRI GURU DATTA!

    • padmamadala on April 23, 2013 at 7:57 am

    Jaya Guru Datta! Sri Guru Datta! Om Namo Hanumathe Namaha!
    Om Sri Dattaatreyaaya Namaha!
    My Humble Pranamams to SADGURUS LOTUS FEET
    Om Sri Sadgurubhyo Namaha!

    • Vanaja on April 23, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Jaya Guru Datta,
    holding on and let go again…. very interesting to think this through from the perspective as a disciple and as a mother of two children.
    My beloved Appaji thank You for watching my little fishes with me and carring us through this ocean of samsara.

    Children song (Switzerland):
    “Zwei chliini Fischli schwümmed im See … s’Mami seit ich chumme nöd mit – den im Meer da hets an grosse Hai und dä macht schnipp, schnipp, schnapp und schwabididap!”

    Sri Guru Datta

    • svetha on April 24, 2013 at 4:32 am

    My beloved APPAJI, thank YOU for YOUR love and help and guidance.
    Humbly I bow down at YOUR Lotosfeet.

  7. Jaya Guru Datta. We all born in this world. Grow up and learn to be independent under the eye of the Mother is the way for every human beeing in this world. The spiritual process is also like that way. We all start as spiritual baby’s in the Hand of our Spiritual Mother. To understand this process is a lifelong journey with help of our Sadguru. Many thanks for the gift of knowing and understanding.

    • sanath on April 24, 2013 at 7:25 am

    i read about the kitten, monkey and baby fish many days back individually understanding them together now this makes it more meaningful
    thank you swami ji for grooming us so soft .
    Jaya guru datta
    sivaya gurave namaha.

    • lalithabalaji on April 24, 2013 at 8:56 am

    jai guru deva datta iam very thankful to say these words you are absolutely prove it in my life.that is when i read bhagavatham before i met you cannot understand what is it . now i feel the meaning and i cannot express it in words . only gurudev knows it because he only gave the feeling to me i am very lucky sakshaath vishnu swaroopa dattadeva is my gurudev. He always live in my heart .

    • prakashbabu on April 24, 2013 at 9:08 am

    విశ్వందర్పణ దృశ్యమాన నగరీ తుల్యం నిజాంతర్గతం
    పశ్యన్నాత్మని మాయయా బహిరివోద్భూతం యథానిద్రయా |
    యస్సాక్షాత్కురుతే ప్రభోధసమయే స్వాత్మానమే వాద్వయం
    తస్మై శ్రీగురుమూర్తయే నమ ఇదం శ్రీ దక్షిణామూర్తయే ||

    • vekateswrudu bhadra on April 24, 2013 at 9:09 am

    దేహం ప్రాణమపీంద్రియాణ్యపి చలాం బుద్ధిం చ శూన్యం విదుః
    స్త్రీ బాలాంధ జడోపమాస్త్వహమితి భ్రాంతాభృశం వాదినః |
    మాయాశక్తి విలాసకల్పిత మహావ్యామోహ సంహారిణే
    తస్మై శ్రీ గురుమూర్తయే నమ ఇదం శ్రీ దక్షిణామూర్తయే ||

    • dr.kodanda ram reddy on April 24, 2013 at 10:25 am

    jayagurudatta puttuji, sashtangapranams at lotus feet of poojya swamiji , our poojya swamiji is so kind enough to safe gaurd us in all aspects ,he is protecting us like mother,father, guru and
    lord datta, he is all in one, we are so lucky to be at his lotus feet,om namo hanumathenamhaa

    • Pavani Kamalapuram on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 am

    JGD Appaji
    Beautiful MMS! Knowing You are always there no matter how slow or fast we develop is such a great Blessing! And such Bliss, that we all are/ were kittens held by You! Lucky Kittens!

    • R VENKATARATNAM on April 27, 2013 at 1:39 am


    • Upendar rao on May 5, 2013 at 3:54 am

    JGD.Guru madye stitam viswam, Viswa madye stito guru;Viswa roopo virupo sow Tasmai sri Gurave namaha-

    • Joseph on May 28, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Like mother weans off its baby gradually and trains baby to be more independent to walk, talk etc. similarly God wants us all to be independent and be blissful free from attachments.

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